Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

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pyrosucks
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Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by pyrosucks »

I am using switches to disable outputs for testing. Is there a way to disable the sounder base outputs without disabling the smoke detector associated with it? Also, is it possible to write a rule that will disable multiple outputs, but only one trouble message is displayed (pseudo point??)? Currently when I disable the system for testing, I get over 200 hundred seperate troubles on the panel.
junjun
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by junjun »

then put your outputs in a group....
pyrosucks
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by pyrosucks »

Below is what I was able to come up with. I have not tested it yet. Please look over and see if you think this will work correctly.


[SOUNDER BASE LOGICAL OUTPUT]

RLYCFG 'SOUNDER_BASES' :ON 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*';


[ALOFT SPEAKER LOGICAL OUTPUT]

RLYCFG 'ALOFT_SPEAKERS_STROBES' :ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP*'TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08';


[ALOFT SMOKE ALARM]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK*' : ON 'SOUNDER_BASES',
ON 'ALOFT_SPEAKERS_STROBES',
+SEND '1798' MSG "01",
-SEND '1798' MSG "21";


[AUDIBLE BASE SILENCE]

AS : GROUPOFF 'SOUNDER_BASES',
GROUPOFF 'ALOFT_SPEAKERS_STROBES';


[ALOFT AUDIO/VISUAL DISABLE]

SW 'SW13*' : ON 'LED37*',
DISABLE 'ALOFT_SPEAKERS_STROBES',
DISABLE 'SOUNDER_BASES'
junjun
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by junjun »

are these 'ALOFT_SPEAKERS_STROBES' & 'SOUNDER_BASES' belongs to a group?
pyrosucks
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by pyrosucks »

I created a logical output for each, referenced those in my general alarm and disable rules
junjun
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by junjun »

Ok....yes it will work
FireTech
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by FireTech »

Another way to stop this from Happening is by using Priorities.
SW 'SW13*' : ON 'LED37*',
OFF -HIGH 'ALOFT_SPEAKERS_STROBES',
OFF -HIGH 'SOUNDER_BASES'

-- Normally, When outputs are activated in the Est program, its done by -Low Priority
old_tech
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by old_tech »

get an io module. (or two spare idc8/4 zones or a cr and ct1). use a switch to turn on the output which is wired to short the input (as a monitor point), then have the monitor point response disable your devices. No troubles will be shown.
pyrosucks
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by pyrosucks »

Have used this setup on some est-2's with success. Just wondering if there was a way to do it without extra equipment. I have written rules using priorities, but have not tested it yet
pyrosucks
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Re: Disable Sounder Base output in rules with switch

Post by pyrosucks »

I tried using the priorities as suggested, but my outputs are still activating. Is it the order I have the rules in? Please see below.


{******************************ALOFT RULES****************************************************************}



[ALOFT SMOKE ALARM]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK*' :ON 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*',
ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "01",
-SEND '1798' MSG "41";





[ALOFT C.O. DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_CO_DET*' :+SEND '1798' MSG "06",
-SEND '1798' MSG "46";



[ALOFT PULL ALARM]

ALARM 'ALOFT_PULL*' :ON 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*',
ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "02",
-SEND '1798' MSG "42";




[ALOFT HEAT DET ALARM]

ALARM 'ALOFT_HEAT*' :ON 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*',
ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "03",
-SEND '1798' MSG "43";




[ALOFT WATERFLOW ALARM]

ALARM 'ALOFT_FLOW*' :ON 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*',
ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "04",
-SEND '1798' MSG "44";




[ALOFT DUCT DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_DUCT*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "10",
-SEND '1798' MSG "50";

[ALOFT TAMPER ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_TAMPER*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "05",
-SEND '1798' MSG "45";

[ALOFT POWER EOLR]

SUPERVISORY 'ER*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "28",
-SEND '1798' MSG "68";


[ALOFT ROOM SMOKE]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*' :+SEND '1798' MSG "22",
-SEND '1798' MSG "62";

[FIRE PUMP RUN]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_FIRE_PUMP_RUN' :ON 'LED7*',
+SEND '1798' MSG "23",
-SEND '1798' MSG "63";

[FIRE PUMP OFF]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_FIRE_PUMP_OFF' :+SEND '1798' MSG "24",
-SEND '1798' MSG "64";


[FIRE PUMP PHASE REVERSAL]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_FIRE_PUMP_PHASE' :+SEND '1798' MSG "25",
-SEND '1798' MSG "65";

[FIRE PUMP POWER FAIL]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_FIRE_PUMP_POWER' : +SEND '1798' MSG "26",
-SEND '1798' MSG "66";


[AUDIBLE BASE SILENCE]

AS :OFF 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*';



[ALOFT DOOR RELEASE]

ALARM 'ALOFT*' :ON 'ALOFT_DOOR_RELEASE*';



[SWITCH LED]

SW 'SW<N:1-6>*' : ON 'LED<N>*';


[ALOFT AUDIO/VISUAL DISABLE]

SW 'SW13*' : ON 'LED37*',
OFF -HIGH 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*',
OFF -HIGH 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE*',
DISABLE 'ALOFT_AV',
DISABLE 'SOUNDERS';


[SHOPS A/V DISABLE]
SW 'SW14*' : ON 'LED38*',
OFF -HIGH 'SHOPS_AUDIBLE*',
DISABLE 'SHOPS_AV';




[ELEVATOR DISABLE]
SW 'SW15*' :ON 'LED39*',
OFF -HIGH 'LED8*',
DISABLE 'ELEVATOR_RECALL',
OFF -HIGH '*RECALL',
OFF -HIGH '*SHUNT',
OFF -HIGH '*FLASHING',
OFF -HIGH '*EM_POWER';

[DOOR DISABLE]
SW 'SW16*' :ON 'LED40*',
DISABLE 'DOOR_DISABLE',
OFF -HIGH 'ALOFT_DOOR_RELEASE*';




[5TH FLOOR PAGE]

SW 'SW1*' : AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP6_S7'TO 'Ch_Page_01_08';




[4TH FLOOR PAGE]

SW 'SW2*' : AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP5_S6'TO 'Ch_Page_01_08';





[3RD FLOOR PAGE]

SW 'SW3*' : AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP4_S5'TO 'Ch_Page_01_08';





[2ND FLOOR PAGE]

SW 'SW4*' : AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP3_S4'TO 'Ch_Page_01_08';




[1ST FLOOR PAGE]

SW 'SW5*' : AMPON 'SHOPS_AMP2_S2'TO 'Ch_Page_01_08';



[STAIRWELLS PAGE]

SW 'SW6*' : AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP1_S1/S3'TO 'Ch_Page_01_08',
ON 'ALOFT_STAIRWELLS';

[5TH FL ADA RM 535]


SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK209' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE19';


[5TH FL ADA RM 533]


SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK210' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE18';




[4TH FL ADA RM 433]


SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK150' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE16';



[4TH FL ADA RM 435]


SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK149' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE15';



[3RD FL ADA RM 335]


SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK130' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE13';



[3RD FL ADA RM 333]


SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK129' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE12';



[2ND FL ADA RM 253]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK15' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE8';



[2ND FL ADA RM 251]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK14' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE7';



[2ND FL ADA RM 249]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK13' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE6';


[2ND FL ADA RM 247]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK12' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE5';


[2ND FL ADA RM 245]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK11' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE4';


[2ND FL ADA RM 217]

SUPERVISORY 'ALOFT_RM_SMK10' : ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE3';


[ELEVATOR 3 & 4 PRIMARY]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK<N:100,104,142,148>_ELV3_4' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV3_PRI_RECALL',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV4_PRI_RECALL';



[ELEVATOR 3 & 4 ALT RECALL]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK<N:22,23,25>_ELV3_4' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV3_ALT_RECALL',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV4_ALT_RECALL';


[ELEVATOR 3 & 4 SHUNT]


ALARM 'ALOFT_HEAT<N:1,2,5,6>_ELV3_4' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV3_SHUNT',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV4_SHUNT',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV3_EM_POWER',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV4_EM_POWER';






[ELEVATOR 3 & 4 STEADY CAB]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK100_ELV3_4' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV3_CAB_FLASHING',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV4_CAB_FLASHING';


[ELEVATOR 3 & 4 FLASHING CAB]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK<N:22,25>_ELV3_4' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV3_CAB_FLASHING',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV4_CAB_FLASHING';


[ELEVATOR 1 & 2 PRI RECALL]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK<N:21,32,118,501,502,503>_ELV1_2' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV1_PRI_RECALL',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV2_PRI_RECALL';


[ELEVATOR 1 & 2 ALT RECALL]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK<N:61,62,63,500>_ELV1_2' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV1_ALT_RECALL',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV2_ALT_RECALL';

[ELEVATOR 1 & 2 SHUNT TRIP]

ALARM 'ALOFT_HEAT<N:3,4,7,8>_ELV1_2' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV1_SHUNT',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV2_SHUNT',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV1_EM_POWER',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV2_EM_POWER';



[ELEVATOR 1 & 2 STEADY CAB]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK118_ELV1_2' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV1_CAB_FLASHING',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV2_CAB_FLASHING';


[ELEVATOR 1 & 2 FLASHING CAB]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK<N:62,63>_ELV1_2' : ON 'LED8*',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV1_CAB_FLASHING',
ON 'ALOFT_ELV2_CAB_FLASHING';


[ELEVATOR 3 & 4 DAMPER]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK*ELV3_4' : ON 'ALOFT_ELV_3_&_4_DAMPER';



[ELEVATOR 1 & 2 DAMPER]

ALARM 'ALOFT_SMK*ELV1_2' : ON 'ALOFT_ELV1_2_DAMPER';



[ALOFT KITCHEN HOOD]


ALARM 'ALOFT_HOOD*' : AMPON 'ALOFT_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
ON 'ALOFT_RM_SMK*',
ON 'ALOFT_AUDIBLE*',
+SEND '1798' MSG "07",
-SEND '1798' MSG "47";

{******************************SHOPS RULES****************************************************************}


[SHOPS CORRIDOR SMOKE ALARM]

ALARM 'SHOPS_SMK*' : ON 'SHOPS_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'SHOPS_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "11",
-SEND '1798' MSG "51";

[SHOPS CORRIDOR PULL ALARM]

ALARM 'SHOPS_HALL_PULL*' : ON 'SHOPS_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'SHOPS_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "20",
-SEND '1798' MSG "60";

[SHOPS WATERFLOW ALARM]

ALARM 'SHOPS_FLOW*' : ON 'SHOPS_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'SHOPS_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "19",
-SEND '1798' MSG "59";

[SHOPS TAMPER ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_TAMPER*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "18",
-SEND '1798' MSG "58";

[SHOPS LOW AIR]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_LOWAIR*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "27",
-SEND '1798' MSG "67";







[2251 OLD BRICK PULL ALARM]

ALARM 'SHOPS_2251_PULL*' : ON 'SHOPS_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'SHOPS_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "12",
-SEND '1798' MSG "52";


[2251 OLD BRICK KITCHEN HOOD]


ALARM 'SHOPS_2251_HOOD*' : ON 'SHOPS_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'SHOPS_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "09",
-SEND '1798' MSG "49";


[2251 DUCT DET3 ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2251_DUCT3' : ON 'SHOPS_2251_RELAY1',
ON 'SHOPS_2251_RELAY2',
ON 'SHOPS_2251_RELAY3';


[2251 DUCT DET4 ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2251_DUCT4' : ON 'SHOPS_2251_RELAY2';


[2251 DUCT DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2251_DUCT*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "21",
-SEND '1798' MSG "61";



[2243 DUCT DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2243_DUCT*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "13",
-SEND '1798' MSG "53";

[2239 DUCT DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2239_DUCT*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "14",
-SEND '1798' MSG "54";

[2235 DUCT DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2235_DUCT*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "15",
-SEND '1798' MSG "55";

[2231 DUCT DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2231_DUCT*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "16",
-SEND '1798' MSG "56";

[2225 DUCT DET ALARM]

SUPERVISORY 'SHOPS_2225_DUCT*' : +SEND '1798' MSG "17",
-SEND '1798' MSG "57";

[2225 OLD BRICK KITCHEN HOOD]


ALARM 'SHOPS_2225_HOOD*' : ON 'SHOPS_AUDIBLE*',
AMPON 'SHOPS_AMP*' TO 'Ch_Evac_01_08',
MSGON 'Default_Evac_01_08' TO 'CH_EVAC_01_08',
+SEND '1798' MSG "08",
-SEND '1798' MSG "48";





{******************************COMMON TROUBLE TO CMS****************************************************************}


[Common trouble]
CMSFirstTrouble:
+Send '1798' MSG "30",
-Send '1798' MSG "31";






[LOW BATTERY ]
LTRB '*LO_BAT*':
+SEND '1798' MSG "32",
-SEND '1798' MSG "72";

[NO BATTERY ]
LTRB '*BATT_TRBL*' :
+SEND '1798' MSG "32",
-SEND '1798' MSG "72";


[GROUND FAULT]
GROUNDFAULT '*' :
+SEND '1798' MSG "33",
-SEND '1798' MSG "73";

[Phone Line 1 FAIL]
LocalTrouble 'Telephone_Line_1*' :
+SEND '1798' MSG "34",
-SEND '1798' MSG "74";

[Phone Line 2 FAIL]
LocalTrouble 'Telephone_Line_2*' :
+SEND '1798' MSG "35",
-SEND '1798' MSG "75";

[Phone Line 1 COMM FAULT]
LocalTrouble 'Receiver_Test_Line_1*' :
+SEND '1798' MSG "36",
-SEND '1798' MSG "76";


[Phone Line 2 COMM FAULT]
LocalTrouble 'Receiver_Test_Line_2*' :
+SEND '1798' MSG "37",
-SEND '1798' MSG "77";
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